Kashmiris - Why SO SILENT???

A three-year old child was killed by terrorists with his father in Shopian. Aint this HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSE at the WORST?? One cant be biased about it, can we?

Surprising there is NO Shopian Chalo calls! NO calender of Hartals!
It is because of this HYPOCRITICAL attitude of the separatists and their faithfuls that Nobody listens to the words of Kashmiris! It needs common knowledge to understand who the perpetuators are!

The Silence is Deafening to say the least!

Militants are our brothers and this is our own domestic matter now so we will sort it out but u r outsiders and when outsiders touch us....we come together and fight united.

So bottom line is...please stay out of our domestic matters

Kashmir has been and WILL be a Part of India, no matter how much Pakistanis would like to dismantle it from us. It was always a stronghold of Hindusim when Adi Shankaracharya stayed there. Our Hindu kith and kin used to visit the Amarnath yatra shrines for years. It was always a part of the erstwhile Hindustan before the Mughals invade and Islam spread in the region.

So, you stop messing in OUR domestic affair and go back to your friends across the border, before ONE billion Indians come and throw you out of the valley!

And as for you referring to us "Dogs", we take it as a compliment, because such high word cannot be reserved to Unfaithful and Ungrateful persons like you!

As for outsiders, did you know that the persons involved in all the incidents in the recent past were all Kashmiris?? So, you want incidents to stop right? Let us remove all the Kashmiris from our forces n I can Guarantee you that all suc incidents would plummet!

Just look at us and then take a look at yourself n your slum dweller Indian army, there's no way you have been in our land for centuries as you claim.......Our features are different, our language different, our culture different and our ethnicity different.......so no same shit stuff.

Amarnath is part of our heritage too and was discovered just a mere 150 odd years ago by Kashmiri Muslims.In ancient times/600 years ago our ancestors in Kashmir were Hindus but does being a Hindu mean that we have to be a part of India!!!! HELL NO.....KASHMIR/Afghanistan/NWFP/PARTS OF KASHGAR at one time were predominantly HINDU/BUDDHIST so I don't see any sense in your statements at all.

Nepal is a Hindu country with a lot of temples, does that mean you are going to occupy it too just like you are occupying us presently.

Go take a breather, discussing this issue with you is a waste of time anyway.

WE have a lot of Indian army street dogs and then we also have a very few Kashmiri dogs who befriend the Indian army street dogs(LIKE BEGETS LIKE) and together they hunt and kill hapless Kashmiris.

No community or nation is without its low lying evil creepy bastards, We in Kashmir are no exception and therefore the SOG/Pro-India politicians/Task Force/Elements of State Police are the shitty doggy aspect of our society.

In other words, when the British ruled/occupied India, they occupied it with the help of Indians who were in administration/political posts/police services/army etc etc.

If you study World War 1 and World WAR 2, you will realize that a major bulk of the British Forces were comprised of Sikhs/Jats/Nepalese Gurkha's/Punjabi's/Pathan's etc etc etc etc.....of course there was always an English officer to commandeer them.

So, these soldiers of Indian/Nepali origin helped majorly to quash down the uprising of 1857 (GADAR) or in apprehending terrorists like Bhagat Singh/Sukhdev/Rajguru/Mahatma Gandhi/Jinnah/Nehru/Lok Manya Tilak etc etc etc.

There is no way the British could have controlled the vast Indian sub continent without the help of the majority of Indians(who would have stayed with the British empire forever if the empire itself were not weakened by the stopping of the Opium trade with China-read HISTORY)........In contrast look at us Kashmiris, only a minority- a minuscule minority here supports the Indian occupation and majority does not.....so overall we are not as doggy as you guys are and that's for sure.

We have a code of honor and ethics in Kashmir that is way above your street doggy Indian stuff and there's no way we want to be like you guys or stoop down to your standards.

"Just look at us and then take a look at yourself n your slum dweller Indian army, there's no way you have been in our land for centuries as you claim.......Our features are different, our language different, our culture different and our ethnicity different.......so no same shit stuff."

Well, if thats the case, let us divide the state. Let Jammu and Ladakh be integrated with India and you can very well have your own state. So, you want a separate land just because our features, language donot match. Clearly, do you know that the languages, cultures that are there in India? There is more similarity between Kashmiris and Delhites than there is between Delhites and Keralites. So, India has never become one because "same language/same dressing style" shit you are saying. Separate Ruler you say, did you know that India was a collection of princely states, with each state ruled by its own ruler? As far us we are concerned, Yes, you are unique , BUT JUST LIKE EVERYOTHER STATE in India.

Yes, when a group of people revolt against a foreign rule, it is called a freedom struggle. But, when a group of people connive with the enemy to bring down its own nation, they are called "Traitors". You guys are only showing how stupid you can be by comparing your terrorist nonsense with legendery freedom fighters. Infact, you are everything against what our forefathers and the persons you compare yourself with fought for!

"We have a code of honor and ethics in Kashmir that is way above your street doggy Indian stuff and there's no way we want to be like you guys or stoop down to your standards."

Yes. Six lacs troopers,right? Do you know how many kashmiris support the state? As far as ethics are concerned, Do you know how many rapes and murders have been committed by them?

"In contrast look at us Kashmiris, only a minority- a minuscule minority here supports the Indian occupation and majority does not.....so overall we are not as doggy as you guys are and that's for sure."

Either your history books are the other side of the border, or you were busy pelting stones when they were taking place. If that is the case, why did you fools come out vote?

"Amarnath is part of our heritage too and was discovered just a mere 150 odd years ago by Kashmiri Muslims.In ancient times/600 years ago our ancestors in Kashmir were Hindus but does being a Hindu mean that we have to be a part of India!!!! HELL NO.....KASHMIR/Afghanistan/NWFP/PARTS OF KASHGAR at one time were predominantly HINDU/BUDDHIST so I don't see any sense in your statements at all."

Well, Yes. We have divided our nation enough to please you guys. Adi Shankarcharya preached in the region more than ten centuries back. If you guys keep considering that 5000-year old for need for a separate state, the why shouldnt we ask for what is rightfully our land -- both before you came and AFTER 1947 when your king acceded it to us. Dude, Duress or not, we never asked your Pakistanis to invade your land.

So, get off your self rigteous pedestal. You guys are far worse than Paksitanis. An enemy is always better than a Traitor!

Aand for all your features matching crap, thats the silliest argument I have ever heard, even from Kashmiri separatists!

Well, then why dont you join your Taliban friends, you have a lot more common between you!

@Bharat:

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Yes. Six lacs troopers,right? Do you know how many kashmiris support the state? As far as ethics are concerned, Do you know how many rapes and murders have been committed by them?

Either your history books are the other side of the border, or you were busy pelting stones when they were taking place.

Well, Yes. We have divided our nation enough to please you guys. Adi Shankarcharya preached in the region more than ten centuries back. If you guys keep considering that 5000-year old for need for a separate state, the why shouldnt we ask for what is rightfully our land -- both before you came and AFTER 1947 when your king acceded it to us. Dude, Duress or not, we never asked your Pakistanis to invade your land.

I think you have some substance-abuse issues. Put down whatever you're smoking or snorting and calmly explain this drivel.

And you must've conveniently overlooked shahab's point about Nepal. It being a hindu country, when will your slumdog army be invading them and using the same argument.

"I think you have some substance-abuse issues. Put down whatever you're smoking or snorting and calmly explain this drivel.

And you must've conveniently overlooked shahab's point about Nepal. It being a hindu country, when will your slumdog army be invading them and using the same argument.
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Well, It didnot deserve any reply because it showed Shahab's lack of knowledge. HIndustan doesnot mean land of Hindus as he is assuming. It means "Land of the Indus" and it compassed the entire area he has described other than Nepal.

Pretty daring statement for him and you to make, when you guys created a separate nation just because you belonged to a particular religion.

And as far as your comment of substance-abuse is concerned, there are poppy fields across Kashmir, no wonder there are so many fanaticm out there. I need to ask, how strange it is that liquor is banned in islam, but poppy and drugs flourish..pretty hypocritacal of you guys!

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Well, if thats the case, let us divide the state. Let Jammu and Ladakh be integrated with India and you can very well have your own state. So, you want a separate land just because our features, language do not match. Clearly, do you know that the languages, cultures that are there in India? There is more similarity between Kashmiris and Delhites than there is between Delhites and Keralites. So, India has never become one because "same language/same dressing style" shit you are saying. Separate Ruler you say, did you know that India was a collection of princely states, with each state ruled by its own ruler? As far us we are concerned, Yes, you are unique , BUT JUST LIKE EVERYOTHER STATE in India.

What else can you think of but dividing, same old British mentality of Divide n rule that you guys are carrying , People of Leh,Jammu, Kathua and Udhampur are our blood and gore, they will go where we go. Of course Srinagar, Baramulla, Islamabad,Doda, Poonch, Rajouri, Kishtwar and Kargil is THE HEART OF KASHMIR as they are our kith n kin. And we r not a state of India u fool, we never voted for accession....secession only happens when you have accepted accession......difficult to Understand for u-go to United Nations security council website and read about the Kashmir resolutions. Our status you fool is yet to be decided, when we KASHMIRIS vote to be a part of India in a UN supervised referendum, then make your stupid comments. Of course no Indian army and no election commission of India conducted elections will work till then.

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Yes, when a group of people revolt against a foreign rule, it is called a freedom struggle. But, when a group of people connive with the enemy to bring down its own nation, they are called "Traitors". You guys are only showing how stupid you can be by comparing your terrorist nonsense with legendary freedom fighters. In fact, you are everything against what our forefathers and the persons you compare yourself with fought for!

Again you Indians are foreigners to us and in Kashmir we lovingly refer to you guys as "Daal". Because we never voted in our promised referendum to be a part of your slum dwelling nation, to us your army and you are traitors and anybody in Kashmir who sides with the Indian Union is a traitor. Our freedom fighters are Maqbool Bhat/ Ashfaq Majid/Yasin Malik/Syed Ali SHAH Geelani/Shabir Shah and to us they are even bigger than BHagat Singh or Mahatma Gandhi. Yes if we are terrorists then Bhagat Singh and Mahatma Gandhi were terrorists.........tough for your small microscopic mind to Understand ain't........You have to be a Kashmiri first to understand our pain.

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Either your history books are the other side of the border, or you were busy pelting stones when they were taking place. If that is the case, why did you fools come out vote?

If you are so sure about us fools n our voting patterns, then hold a plebiscite as your great leader n first Prime Minister Nehru promised to us at the UN. Hold a Plebiscite and the majority will vote for you....c'mon man hold a referendum and decide this issue once forever. If the majority comes out and votes for you, I will accept all your dogshit.

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Well, Yes. We have divided our nation enough to please you guys. Adi Shankarcharya preached in the region more than ten centuries back. If you guys keep considering that 5000-year old for need for a separate state, the why shouldnt we ask for what is rightfully our land -- both before you came and AFTER 1947 when your king acceded it to us. Dude, Duress or not, we never asked your Pakistanis to invade your land.

So, get off your self rigteous pedestal. You guys are far worse than Paksitanis. An enemy is always better than a Traitor!

India as it is today never existed as a nation before 1947, it was a subcontinent brought under one rule by the British empire. It was more of a subcontinent with multiple rulers/countries in it. At various stages in history like when emperor Ashoka ruled or during the time of the Mughals, India or Hindustan became somewhat bigger or smaller but it has come into its present existence only recently.....thank the British bastards for that.
Yeah, just like the Israelis, you will now say that GOD promised you our land------how low can you Indians go.Just because a shankracharya preached here doesn't make Kashmir yours...If tomorrow a shankracharya starts preaching in the USA, will you claim that territory as yours too.....u guys are pathetic.

If fighting for the right of self determination is being traitors, THEN WE KASHMIRIS ARE PROUD TRAITORS.

If fighting for the dignity, respect and righteousness of our women/mothers/sisters/daughters is being a traitor, THEN YES WE ARE PROUD TRAITORS.

If resisting the illegal Indian occupation in KASHMIR is being a traitor, THEN WE ARE THE GREATEST, BIGGEST MOST HUMONGOUS TRAITORS OF ALL TIMES.

WE KASHMIRIS HAVE ALWAYS WANTED YOU INDIANS AS NOTHING BUT GOOD NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS BUT IF YOU ENTER MY HOME AND CLAIM IT AS YOUR OWN, THEN I WILL HAVE TO FIGHT YOU TILL I GET YOU OUT OF MY HOUSE.

WHETHER IT IS PAKISTAN OR INDIA, YOU ARE both occupiers TO US but at least the PAKISTANIS HAVE NEVER RAPED OUR WOMEN OR MURDERED INNOCENT PROTESTERS IN COLD BLOOD.

SHAME ON YOU INDIANS FOR BEING SO much like chimgadhars (Kenkileth in Kashmiri). You change colors and call us traitors because we are fighting for a rightful cause. We have a saying in Kashmiri that defines you guys in a very rightful way which I will translate for you into English " If you are travelling through a forest and you come across a Lion on one side and an Indian on the other side..........save yourself from the Indian first"

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(Hindu)Heound yaar gow kaveour NAAR

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It means "Land of the Indus" and it compassed the entire area he has described other than Nepal.

Forgive my lack of knowledge SIR, but river Indus originates in Tibet, does that mean you have designs on Tibet too......I wonder how the Chinese will take to this theory of INDUS SHIT NOW without NEPAL OF COURSE

I expected you to make such feeble arguments/comments. I realize you are not aware of your own Kashmir, not aware how many women have been raped and men have been murdered by your fellow kashmiris, How can I expect you to know about India or others!

I realize that you must be of those kids who must have got tired of stonepelting and is whiling away his time here waiting for the next Hartal call.

So, no more replies to asinine fools like you from me till the time you do your homework and raise reply-worthy arguments. Like we "Slumdogs" say "Never wrestle with a pig; you both get dirty and the pig likes it!"

@BHARAT MATA

I thought I had already explained to you about certain Kashmiris who your street Dog army works with but you have conveniently again forgotten the salient points....and
U r right, my mind is too small and I am waiting for the next hartal call. U INDIANS ARE ALWAYS RIGHT CAUSE GOD SPEAKS THROUGH YOU.

HA HA HA, LOL I am sorry your honour, I should not blame anything on you as you Indian people are genteel souls who can't even hurt a fly.

I have one more word for Indians now in my dictionary and that is:

The most "MAKKAR KOUM" that God ever created......and of course the word is MAKKAR.

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If you are so sure about us fools n our voting patterns, then hold a plebiscite as your great leader n first Prime Minister Nehru promised to us at the UN. Hold a Plebiscite and the majority will vote for you....c'mon man hold a referendum and decide this issue once forever. If the majority comes out and votes for you, I will accept all your dogshit.

Please Bharat Mata....atleast reply to this argument above.......u won't and never will do that cause u don't have the balls......in other words Indian dogs will always be dogs and behave like pigs from Jhumri Talaiya/India.

I was having fun with you Bharat Maata, cause I knew from day 1 that you are one of those friggin Hindutva fanatics.

Bharat,

http://news.rediff.com/report/2009/jul/31/kashmir-is-a-humungous-human-tragedy.htm

If this does not awake you nothing will!
It comes from one amongst you. Think hard what makes her different from you. When you can`t, read the rest of this post.
Very few Indians have a heart to face the truth. The ones who do, of course they are slated to be different - because I say they are human; about the rest, take a wild guess!

shahab......just shut up.....as u r a traitor........just say bharat mata ki jai......
U know what........when whole India works......than we pay tax........because of that tax u bloddy kashmiris eat ur food.......bastard.
U dont have an economy, u dont contribute to the nations success....U eat a free meal....which is paid by our hard earned tax....so bloody..feel proud to be a part pf India.....Dont behave like a traitor....We are emerging economy of this world... Tell me one country where people like Hurriyat conference (geelani etc )
live with so much comfort if they are in occupation.......NO u r not under occupation ..but u people r misguided....by some stupids like Geelani.
Dont even compare mahatma with geelani......this will be an insult to our father of nation.....how can u even compare that donkey to mahatma gandhi..
Believe me kashmir is part pf India.....otherwise I swear that Osama Bin Laden's execution had taken place in Srinagar itself.
Its we who make u different , its we aho treats u as our brothers.....Now u will say that I am lying.......but beleive me u show ur trust to Indians.....and the whole Indian Youth will stand for u people.....after all u r Indians who r misguided by Some stupids........for some selfish reasons .... It does not mean that u r muslim so u have to form a different nation....No......Lets be together....