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PostSubject: IS INDIA a pseudo-nation intoxicated in its NUCLEAR POWER ?   Fri Aug 29, 2008 5:13 am

India ASSAILS UN Rights body's statement on J&K

Press Trust of India
Thursday, August 28, 2008, (New Delhi)
India on Thursday reacted strongly to the comments by UN High Commission for Human Rights (HCHR) on the situation in Jammu and Kashmir, terming these as "unwarranted" and "irresponsible" and bluntly told it that New Delhi does not need "any advice".

New Delhi pointed out to the Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) that terrorists have been targeting innocent people in the state, like in Jammu on Wednesday, and the security forces have been making efforts to ensure that no innocent lives are lost and in this endeavour laid down their lives.

"We regret that the OHCHR has issued a statement on the situation in Jammu and Kashmir. This is uncalled for and irresponsible," External Affairs Ministry spokesman Navtej Sarna said in New Delhi.

"India does not need any advice in respect of the protection and promotion of human rights of its citizens," he asserted.

The UN body, in its first comment since protests and violence erupted over Amarnath land transfer issue in Jammu and Kashmir, voiced concern over civilian casualties and asked India to conduct "a thorough and independent investigation" into all the incidents.

Sarna said the OHCHR should be aware that Jammu and Kashmir has been a "victim of terrorist violence" for almost two decades and all through this period, the authorities have acted within the law and with restraint.
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PostSubject: Re: IS INDIA a pseudo-nation intoxicated in its NUCLEAR POWER ?   Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:14 pm

myth of being the largest democracy in the world..
a failed nation in terms of democracy...
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PostSubject: India Intoxicated   Sat Aug 30, 2008 1:31 am

I couldn't agree more with you...its actually a Hindu state which under the garb of democracy kills Muslims, Christians as well as Sikhs.

I think DEMOCRACY in INDIA means to follow the whims and fancies of the Hindu majority. If you can't fall in line, then you are either branded as a terrorist or a Hindu hater or an anti national......whatever the terminology used...Hindu Rashtra is the real winner and secularism the looser.

I would want to be a part of India if it had secular rulers like the Mughals or the other Muslim dynasties that ruled India for more than 1200 years and yet only 15-20 % Indians are Muslims today.The Mughals had powerful armies and if they wanted to convert Hindus to Islam by force they could have done so with impunity but they were true Muslims and chose the path of secularism and tolerance. The secular credentials of rulers like Akbar or Sha-e-Jahan are legendary and no Hindu ruler in any part of India can ever match those credentials.

As always the Hindu Indians will not agree with me but all I want them to do is check some History written by non-religious Historians and they will get their answer.
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PostSubject: Re: IS INDIA a pseudo-nation intoxicated in its NUCLEAR POWER ?   Sat Aug 30, 2008 11:59 am

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I couldn't agree more with you...its actually a Hindu state which under the garb of democracy kills Muslims, Christians as well as Sikhs.

I am not sure if I understand you. Do you mean to say that over the course of last five years, the Sikh prime minister of India (Manmohan Singh), the Muslim president of India (Abdul Kalam), and Christian head of ruling congress party (Sonia Gandhi) joined hands to declare India a Hindu state and kill Muslims, Christians, and Sikhs?

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I think DEMOCRACY in INDIA means to follow the whims and fancies of the Hindu majority. If you can't fall in line, then you are either branded as a terrorist or a Hindu hater or an anti national......whatever the terminology used...Hindu Rashtra is the real winner and secularism the looser.

Abdul Kalam was the most popular president in History of India and the "Hindus" that you are referring to organized rallies and signature campaigns to lobby the government lead by Manmohan Singh (a Sikh) and Sonia Gandhi (a Christian) to reelect the Muslim president for second term. You seem to be mistaking Pakistan with India.

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As always the Hindu Indians will not agree with me but all I want them to do is check some History written by non-religious Historians and they will get their answer.

You are so factually wrong here that even Muslim Indians won't agree with you.
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PostSubject: Pseudo Democracy   Sun Aug 31, 2008 3:38 am

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“I am not sure if I understand you. Do you
mean to say that over the course of last five years, the Sikh prime minister of
India (Manmohan Singh), the
Muslim president of India
(Abdul Kalam), and Christian head of ruling congress party (Sonia Gandhi)
joined hands to declare India
a Hindu state and kill Muslims, Christians, and Sikhs?”





Histories are not written over a 5 year period and before
you talk about Manmohan Singh…explain what happened in 1984 Sikh carnage in Delhi. President of India
is nothing but a figurative leader however India should be eternally grateful
to Muslims for giving you Scientists like Kalam and yet you commit carnages against Muslims
like Godhra, Mumbai riots, Demolish Mosques and what’s more perpetrators like
Modhi who are banned by the US government from entering USA on account of his
involvement in Gujarat are chosen as leaders by the pseudo-democratic Indians.
Advani and BJP after spearheading the demolition of a Mosque are voted to Power
and govern India
for 5 years. Tell me my friend how can a country be secular when the people
voted to power do so on the graves of Muslims and after demolishing Mosques
like Babri Masjid. Sonia Gandhi married an Indian Hindu and has followed
Hinduism all her married life and yet you guys will use her Christian background when it suits you and then when it doesn't you guys hold nation-wide agitations
against her foreign lineage. By the way how many
Christians have you lately killed or burnt in Orissa and yes how is the program of
burning all the Churches proceeding.
Surely Pakistan must be behind it
all!!!!!.Even Pope Benedict XVI has issued a statement condemning your secular/democratic credentials and yes he does not live in Pakistan but resides in a country called Venice/Vatican.









“Abdul Kalam was the most popular president
in History of India and the "Hindus" that you are referring to
organized rallies and signature campaigns to lobby the government lead by
Manmohan Singh (a Sikh) and Sonia Gandhi (a Christian) to reelect the Muslim
president for second term. You seem to be mistaking Pakistan
with India”





I am not aware of a poll being held in India to choose
the most popular president till date and yet if you say so then you are
speaking from your own point of view.My friend you don't prove your secular credentials by appointing a figurative head of state from the Muslim religion, how you do prove them is by acting secular at the grass roots of your society just like not a single Yatri was touched during the Amarnath Yatra in Kashmir and yet Hindu fanatics torched the houses of many Muslims in Jammu division. Sikhs are a small community who have accepted the fact that if they don't follow the whims and fancies of the Hindu majority, then things like the 1984 riots can happen again to them not to mention the sacrilege of desecrating their most sacred symbol i.e."The Golden Temple"by the Indian army. But if you really want to
talk about a secular democracy then Barack Obama in the USA is a good
example. Pakistan was established on the principles of Islam and that is why it
is called “THE ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF PAKISTAN” by the world community….refurbish
your GK a bit…or in other words Pakistanis are following what they stand for as a
republic whereas India says something and practices something else.








You are so factually wrong here that even
Muslim Indians won't agree with you.




What Muslims are you talking about, the ones who were
burnt alive in Gujarat or the ones killed in
Mumbai riots. No you are probably talking about the Christian nuns who were
mercilessly raped and killed or is it Muslims living everywhere else in India with a
constant fear in their minds that if they do the slightest/ smallest thing
against the wishes of their Hindu Masters, they will be taken to task and
either burnt to release their souls
back into the Hindu dominion or booked under
POTA / TADA and then mercilessly killed in fake encounters by Encounter specialists from Gujarat and Mumbai.

My friend you have an extremely weak case so talk about something else like how many more Kashmiris do you plan to kill over the next few months. I am sure you must be having a program for that too. I mean its the territory of Kashmir that you are interested in...the Kashmiris living on this territory are like the sacred Hindu cow (GAI HAMAARI MAATA HAI). You milk the cow in her fertile years and once she stops giving milk, you leave her to die on the streets of your national capital Delhi and elsewhere. I often see your mothers (sacred cows) eating food from filthy garbage dumps. I mean you guys are not true to even your own mothers, how can you then be true to us Kashmiris.
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PostSubject: Re: IS INDIA a pseudo-nation intoxicated in its NUCLEAR POWER ?   Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:02 pm

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MY HUMBLE ANSWERS THAT WILL BE A BIT UNPALATABLE FOR HATED-IN

We have a long history and are a diverse group of people. Differences are bound to happen and sometimes violently. The examples that you gave are not shedding any new light. Everybody knows that. What your examples point to is that you find it easier to divide people on the basis of religion when you could have easily done so on the basis of economic factors or educational factors and point out similar exploitation and abuse along economic social aspects.

In any case, most people, including the rest the world choooses to see India as an entity that can solve its problems, keep people united and grow into the next major economic power. Sadly, you wish to be more motivated by terrorist anarchy of Pakistan.

I think its time government in India seriously started thinking about getting rid of the root cause of Kashmir issue and root cause of much of the problems in the world today - Pakistan.
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PostSubject: india as a problem and not solution   Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:09 pm

what has india achieved in so many years of its independence is a question to be asked...
1)they cnt produce a marvel like taj mahal but claim it to be a rajput temple(an indian scholar tried to prove it..)
2)india had problems in punjab and blamed ISI for it....
3)sikhs were massacared in 1984...
4)humiliated golden temple..
5)india had problems in tamil nadu..
6)facing problems and human rights abuses in north-east.
7)facing a muslim uprising and human rights abuses in kashmir.
8)have border problems with pakistan,china,bangladesh
9)had war with two of its neighbours..(pakistan & china).
10)masacared muslims in gujrat..
11)raped and killed nuns in orissa and burned christian houses and churches and there shops.
12)muslims killed in mumbai riots.
13)human rights abuses in kashmir condemend by UN and OIC.
14)ranks 120th out of 160 countries for free press.
15)killings of estimated 2.5 lacs of muslims in jammu by RSS and VHP.
16)defence minister george fernandes accused of coffin scam during kargil war where he mismanaged the finances for the coffins for killed army men.
17)a mosque can be raised to ground in broad day light in india(babri masjid)
18)claims to have more muslims than pakistan but does not explain the causes for there worst economic conditions and there overall condition in india which is considered even worse than dalits(low cast hindus) which has been published in SACHHAR committe report constituted by supreme court.
19)criticizes open and free minded writers like arundati roy but encourages writers like rushdie and taslima who humiliates people of a particular section of the society with there writings.
...........brothers and sisters the list can go on and on and people are requested to add points to the list if they want..i am sure points are many and criticisms are welcomed..
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PostSubject: Division   Sat Sep 20, 2008 12:07 pm

Division is not among the people

Division is Created by politicians,

There are both kind, but its the people who chooses which way to go.. and then we blame on the country ...

Answer this:
India is not Hindu else BJP or RSS or VHP would have got thumping majority in all general election.
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